tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post1819922139591351059..comments2023-09-05T04:09:28.653-04:00Comments on Sacred Space: Snipers in the sanctuaryUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger94125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-9695766068225419432008-08-09T16:32:00.000-04:002008-08-09T16:32:00.000-04:00And apparently that Ivins fellow who was behind th...And apparently that Ivins fellow who was behind the anthrax "terrorist" attack was a big anti-abortion <BR/>proponent.<BR/><BR/>-anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-19839547771027068872008-08-09T16:29:00.000-04:002008-08-09T16:29:00.000-04:00Great. Now we have a local nutcase being held by ...Great. <BR/><BR/>Now we have a local nutcase being held by the feds for threatening to assassinate Obama for being the "Antichrist".<BR/><BR/>-anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-26092468123647478512008-08-08T19:32:00.000-04:002008-08-08T19:32:00.000-04:00Danbo: "if God's *word* isn't enough for you"Sure ...Danbo: "if God's *word* isn't enough for you"<BR/><BR/>Sure it is. Prove me that it is really a "God's word" then I will trust what you are saying. Show me the evidence.Iztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-82881204466018355252008-08-08T11:08:00.000-04:002008-08-08T11:08:00.000-04:00Izzie(-for-real) writes, "With exception of religi...Izzie(-for-real) writes, "With exception of religious who think (again, no evidence) that there is something special after they die. Wishful thinking that is all it is."<BR/><BR/>I call it a comforting fact! Jesus was there and returned. That's all the proof anyone should need (if God's *word* isn't enough for you).<BR/><BR/>Now, go away and find an atheist board on which to waste your time.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-42651918226347082832008-08-08T11:07:00.000-04:002008-08-08T11:07:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-18126359375922366732008-08-08T08:30:00.000-04:002008-08-08T08:30:00.000-04:00Danbo: "For now he is. But that, someday, will com...Danbo: "For now he is. But that, someday, will come to an end. Then he will wish he hadn't done what he did."<BR/><BR/>Wishful thinking on your behalf. If you would read your Bible you would see that God would have acted swiftly on such things if he would have been concerned or existed. Considering no pillar of salt or anything similar happened to PZ Myers evidence (or lack of) shows its own story. You know, sometimes non existence of evidence is evidence of non existence.<BR/><BR/>Sure, his life will come to an end and I am sure he knows that and so do the rest of us. With exception of religious who think (again, no evidence) that there is something special after they die. Wishful thinking that is all it is.Iztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-91389693672758144682008-08-07T08:19:00.000-04:002008-08-07T08:19:00.000-04:00Izzie noted, "Guess what, he is still alive and ki...Izzie noted, "Guess what, he is still alive and kicking."<BR/><BR/>For now he is. But that, someday, will come to an end. Then he will wish he hadn't done what he did.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-89553584774594145302008-08-07T08:08:00.000-04:002008-08-07T08:08:00.000-04:00I doubt that Myers is the least concerned about th...I doubt that Myers is the least concerned about the otherworldly consequences of his actions.<BR/><BR/>After all, people regularly commit blasphemy and sacrilege for religions they don't follow and rarely think about it.<BR/><BR/>In fact, most people would laugh if you mentioned how their normal daily activities offended some god or the other.<BR/><BR/>We eat pork, eat beef, mix men and women in public, sell Buddha heads in home furnishing stores, and draw cartoons of Muhammad without much concern.<BR/><BR/>No big deal unless the followers of those religions take up the slack where the gods don't punish.<BR/><BR/>Most religions have some otherworldly consequence for insulting their religion that most of us ignore.<BR/><BR/>Besides, how can anyone really know whether Myers really desecrated a transsubstantiated<BR/>cracker?<BR/><BR/>It's not like you can take it to a DNA lab to have it tested.<BR/><BR/>As an atheist, Myers is just as worried about the otherworldly consequences of what he did as most of us would be for eating a hamburger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-52652881688897932312008-08-07T01:44:00.000-04:002008-08-07T01:44:00.000-04:00At least one senator decided to do the right thing...At least one senator decided to do the right thing and sue the culprit. Now I wonder if defendant will show in court or not. My guess is he will not.<BR/><BR/>http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/chambersversusgod.pdfIztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-71368452847898551922008-08-07T01:34:00.000-04:002008-08-07T01:34:00.000-04:00Danbo: "if Professor Meyers follows through with h...Danbo: "if Professor Meyers follows through with his plan -- and if he does so using a host consecrated in the Catholic Mass (hosts used by Protestants are not transsubstantiated) -- death is the least of his worries."<BR/><BR/>And he did. Guess what, he is still alive and kicking. Apparently it wasn't that of a big deal to the almighty or he isn't almighty anymore as he wasn't hit by a lightning bolt or turned into pillar of salt or anything like that for so called blasphemy. Perhaps he has a better sense of humor or he actually likes the intellectual honesty of PZ Mayers and guiding his hands himself after all he has a plan and who is PZ Mayers to not follow it?Iztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-39835450298137523642008-08-06T14:54:00.000-04:002008-08-06T14:54:00.000-04:00Anonymous wrote, "Minnesota professor getting deat...Anonymous wrote, "Minnesota professor getting death threats for threatening to "desecrate" a communion cracker."<BR/><BR/>No Christian should condone such actions as those perpetrated by Mr Kroll. <BR/><BR/>That aside, if Professor Meyers follows through with his plan -- and if he does so using a host consecrated in the Catholic Mass (hosts used by Protestants are not transsubstantiated) -- death is the least of his worries.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-66307902566473730802008-08-06T14:53:00.000-04:002008-08-06T14:53:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-89924046070805625652008-08-06T14:49:00.000-04:002008-08-06T14:49:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Catholic101https://www.blogger.com/profile/09155134213650587054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-90072489887499719292008-08-06T07:53:00.000-04:002008-08-06T07:53:00.000-04:00Pornstudent,Brain-sucking aliens are planning an a...Pornstudent,<BR/><BR/>Brain-sucking aliens are planning an attack on Earth. They will only save those who believe in them.<BR/><BR/>And we are helpless to disprove this.<BR/><BR/>-anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-28091202247920487442008-08-05T21:22:00.000-04:002008-08-05T21:22:00.000-04:00anon1,You're right. Oh, well.anon1,<BR/>You're right. Oh, well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-88540714520090967742008-08-05T20:22:00.000-04:002008-08-05T20:22:00.000-04:00Pornstudent,As long as we're speculating...What if...Pornstudent,<BR/><BR/>As long as we're speculating...<BR/><BR/>What if these super-intelligent ET's appreciate these worshipful human qualities because they make us appear easier to domesticate (like sheep and cows)?<BR/><BR/>Just a few high-tech magic tricks and we'll offer no resistance, worshipping them as gods. <BR/><BR/>Sounds like an easy path to slaughter to me.<BR/><BR/>Maybe it's even been tried before, but humans woke up just in time to rout the invaders.<BR/><BR/>I really don't see why a super-intelligence would like these qualities at all unless they were interested in using us for their own ends at our expense.<BR/><BR/>Otherwise, wouldn't they prefer someone they could learn from?<BR/><BR/>-anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-50284023236854689162008-08-05T08:04:00.000-04:002008-08-05T08:04:00.000-04:00I think people that pull out guns and kill innocen...I think people that pull out guns and kill innocent people, either in church, or school, or anywhere really, are severely mentally ill. Cold-blooded killing with a gun isn't about religious protest or acting out on theological differences. It is about a deep pain, an interruption and error in thinking, a disconnect from human empathy, and a desperate and violent external act as a bloody attempt to address the pain and madness indwelling in the individual. <BR/><BR/>Often, when humans cannot deal with their problems internally, they act out externally, targeting those that represent their internal conflict. It is as if the mind tries to deal with the internal by controlling the external. If I can't stop myself, maybe I can stop "them"?<BR/><BR/>Can't deal with your homosexual urges? Condemn gays in public, demonize them, scapegoat and blame the victim, or just get a baseball bat and start swinging. Can't keep it in your pants around your hot secretary? Have a 5-year long affair, then dump your old wife as she fights for her life in the hospital so you can marry the young woman you've been committing adultery with. Both of these examples are from recent political and religious headlines. I'm not pointing fingers, God knows we all fail to meet our own standards and I surely have as well. I'm not throwing the first stone here. Just trying to point out that these situations are pretty easy to understand. <BR/><BR/>The way forward is to embrace mental health practices. Its the difference between going 5 miles down the road to join or establish a church that reflects your beliefs, and murdering innocent people. One may believe the Unitarians are theologically incorrect, but 99.9% of those holding that opinion simply do not attend that church. The mentally ill grab a gun and try to kill the "difference" they cannot accept or resolve. We need mental health care.Lazarushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07678972921942691149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-19904869101525028242008-08-04T20:46:00.000-04:002008-08-04T20:46:00.000-04:00portstudentgreat commentHallelujah!portstudent<BR/><BR/>great comment<BR/><BR/>Hallelujah!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-46296976185018463762008-08-04T18:26:00.000-04:002008-08-04T18:26:00.000-04:00Although I'm an atheist, I'm glad there are many p...Although I'm an atheist, I'm glad there are many people seeking God and wanting meaningful, loving and eternal lives. <BR/><BR/>Scientists spend a lot of money and effort trying to communicate with extraterrestrial intelligence. If it exists, it is probably much more intelligent than we are. Since we would likely be as insignificant to it as gnats are to us, why would this intelligence want to communicate with us? What is it that we can do that would have it notice us? Billions of us calling out to God, talking to God, singing hymns, believing in the hereafter, wanting eternal life, yearning for meaning and wanting to be better lovers make us different from other animals. And I think they are qualities a super intelligence would like. Maybe it can help us live forever and our desire for meaning and love would have it desire our company.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-90887470946744236312008-08-04T14:07:00.000-04:002008-08-04T14:07:00.000-04:00(Sung to the tune of the Gentrys oldie, "Keep On D...(Sung to the tune of the Gentrys oldie, "Keep On Dancin' "):<BR/><BR/>“He keeps on dancin' (keeps on),<BR/>dancin' round the question being the jerk right now.<BR/>He tries to shake the faithful.<BR/>And claims that God we just don't know.<BR/><BR/>Bomp, Bomp, Bomp, Bomp, Bomp...<BR/><BR/>Yellin' in motion (keeps on)<BR/>Keeps on doin' the "loco"motion, yeah<BR/>Don't worry, all believers<BR/>he can't shake faith,shake faith,no!”Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-45065569165248074812008-08-04T12:56:00.000-04:002008-08-04T12:56:00.000-04:00Hitler was a Catholic. And while Stalin was an ath...Hitler was a Catholic. And while Stalin was an atheist, his atrocities were more akin to religious zealotry - that is "Think alike, don't question, or be punished."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-75304375845671238602008-08-04T10:19:00.000-04:002008-08-04T10:19:00.000-04:00Anony:Here are facts we know that support Big Bang...Anony:<BR/><BR/>Here are facts we know that support Big Bang theory:<BR/><BR/>We know that the galaxies out to the most distant ones we can discern, are moving away from us so that the universe is 'expanding'.<BR/><BR/>We know that the universe is bathed in the microwave glow of the fireball radiation that accompanied the Big Bang.<BR/><BR/>We know that there is a 'universal' abundance of hydrogen, helium, deuterium and lithium which doesn't vary much in no matter which old objects we look at.<BR/><BR/>We know that there are no stars older than 20 billion years even though these kinds of stars should be easily recognizable if the universe were truly older than 20 billion years. <BR/><BR/><BR/>So for example finding a star that is older then 20 billion years would do the trick.<BR/><BR/>Now your turn about God Theory. While you are at it, describe it. Here is description of Big Bang theory:<BR/><BR/>http://www.astronomycafe.net/qadir/q2131.htmlIztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-21890264626706144702008-08-04T10:05:00.000-04:002008-08-04T10:05:00.000-04:00Iztok said "So tell me how would you disprove your...Iztok said "So tell me how would you disprove your God 'theory'?"<BR/><BR/>The same way a scientist would disprove the Big Bang Theory.<BR/><BR/>So now you tell me whether you or anyone else has ever proved there is no God, instead of trying to change definitions to suit yourself and support your pathetic reasoning powers.<BR/><BR/>Oh, I forgot. Unlike most of us, you've never witnessed God's power and love at work. Therefore according to the Iztok Theory, God doesn't exist. That's laughable, but typical.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-71118154557038594202008-08-03T21:58:00.000-04:002008-08-03T21:58:00.000-04:00"When a theory proves that the universe was not th..."When a theory proves that the universe was not the product of an intelligent, calculating, caring mind, I'll adjust my God theory accordingly."<BR/><BR/>That statement has at minimum two logical fallacies.<BR/><BR/>1. Universal negative is impossible to prove. The onus is on you to provide evidence of your "theory".<BR/><BR/>2. From "intelligent, calculating, caring mind" to God is a huge leap. You need to show connection between your initial claim and God.<BR/><BR/>Again, when we talk about Big Bang theory we talk about scientific theory thus you need to provide scientific theory to match. Theory has to be falsifiable. It has to include way how one would disprove it. So tell me how would you disprove your God "theory"?Iztokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13990010837424705188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2954933932670299796.post-20655027263269180402008-08-03T20:45:00.000-04:002008-08-03T20:45:00.000-04:00Current event flash...Minnesota professor getting ...Current event flash...<BR/><BR/>Minnesota professor getting death threats for threatening to "desecrate" a communion cracker.<BR/><BR/>http://minnesotaindependent.com/view/flowery-language<BR/><BR/>It is stuff like this that makes me post as...<BR/><BR/>-anon1Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com